mixmaster1000 2024-06-08 22:45:39

Just like renting a home instead of buying. Because businesses are so bad at branching out their brands to make money elsewhere, the consumer has to suffer the consequences of their inability to come up with new ideas that keep the consumer interested. Let alone, the investor. They try to justify their overhead cost when all they've got is a glorified thinktank of out of touch dangly skin sacks waiting for their 5-million-dollar urn to get done. Everything is going to end up open source like Linux, Godot, GIMP, or Krita (which isn't bad at all). Or it's gonna end up as AI made closed source software. Gotta jump out of those greedy alien pockets and into a real community that's trying to evolve. Vote with your pockets and all that. If these big businesses want to walk off a cliff let 'em. Don't keep building their bridges to nowhere.

ADR3-N 2024-06-12 10:25:46

Exactly. A subscription is only cheaper to the couple month point, or however long it takes to exceed the price of the non-sub plugin.

Whenever a company goes subscription, if you like the dev, I say sub for a few months to give them support, only if you know for a fact you can pirate it once you think you've paid enough. Then un-sub and send them an email about how unfair it is to pay 30 a month for 2 years, or 720 for access to a suite of tools -- not ownership, when there are in fact competitors who will sell you these tools for much less. In other words, you are going elsewhere.

Preferably go elsewhere anyway if you can. Without paying. F the sub model.

These subscription plugins run much slower. They are constantly checking for authorization. Eyeroll. I remember Adobe office products crackheading out years ago when I was in Russian language school for the military. I just needed to sign some damn forms on time but Acrobat held that option behind ransom. I got tired of that real quick.

For developers that have always been skeezy (intentionally depriving paying users of the products they offer by making them into 1 or 2 year trial software, hard to install or validate, with expiring licenses) I will always pirate if I can find no other option to suit my need. Or I just won't use them period.

Music software devs are exceptionally bad about this. Give you 3 devices you can use your serials on and then you have to beg support for another one in the case of simply switching pcs.

All my Waves plugins that took 1400 dollars of my money expired recently as waves is moving to a sub model. Many of my plugins no longer work. So guess what, I'm either pirating the (very few) plugins that didn't suck compared to the competition, or deleting them wholesale and sending a nasty mail.

As Louis Rossman said, "You will own nothing and be happy" in the eyes of these corporations, but "If buying isn't owning, then piracy isn't theft."

ADR3-N 2024-06-12 10:28:50

@ScotAlmighty Yeah. Adobe's move for that has been so far to push removal of flash media from the internet. Because flash had physical media and permanent licenses.

No matter. We can compile our swfs and then convert to mp4

ADR3-N 2024-06-12 14:28:22

@Czyszy Freaking brilliant -- I had been looking for a couple of these. I also write a free plugin magazine as a middle finger to these companies. There are alternatives out there. I'll be damned to have young producers thinking subs is the only option!

My next issue I'm going to talk about just how greedy plugin and marketing companies have been getting, and some of the snake oil we have been sold in order to purchase plugins that, as you said either have alternatives or are not worth the money, and some of them flat out don't do what they say they do (analog emu or colorizing eq) bc it doesn't exist

Sorry I'm talking a ton but this topic lights a fire in me

ADR3-N 2024-06-12 21:17:47

@Czyszy I agree completely. A lot of analog interfaces and even old synthesizers like the Proteus have insanely hard to manage buttons and menus and so on, or the controls are all over the place with no way to see what they're doing under the hood/output!

And I love Ozone and FabFilter for being the complete antithesis of that. For the most part I do use a 31-fader non-graphical EQ, just because it's what I learned on. I'm learning to appreciate the spectrograms though!

KisanoWasTaken 2024-06-13 12:54:28

And thus, the process of ens***ification continues on, claiming another victim and its followers...

This is beyond infuriating. People have to pay FIFTY QUID just to get a decent workshop from Adobe, when, with a little bit of open source and programming know how, you could recreate the ENTIRE suite for less Gigabytes and, get this, FOR FREE. I am genuinley losing my mind with how this useless company is acting. Oh, don't forget, INVASION OF F***ING PRIVACY BY A SUDDEN CHANGE IN TOS FOR NO REASON.

Not even progammers are safe. If I want to get PyCharm, for example: 199 quid.

someone restrain me before i actually do something dangerous.

DioShiba 2024-06-17 22:59:15

I'm just glad that this is all finally coming back to haunt Narayen. Wouldn't pass me if he got ousted from his position as CEO in the next couple of months because of this lawsuit.

This practice woth termnation fees is no different from what cellphone companies did back in the day

Yomuchan 2024-06-18 00:49:22

I thought 2023 was the year of corporate seppuku. This is an even bigger FUBAR than Unity going full moron.